tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post5827214030339983377..comments2023-10-07T22:37:49.244+13:00Comments on The Hand Mirror: progressing pay equitykatyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15742280289613450293noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-39322903219149278162009-05-15T17:57:00.000+12:002009-05-15T17:57:00.000+12:00anon, please go and read your history. the bill w...anon, please go and read your history. the bill was passed and then repealed straight after the election. the fourth labour government didn't get the chance to progress it.stargazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430290445762377335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-10565886663060975302009-05-15T11:55:00.000+12:002009-05-15T11:55:00.000+12:00Thanks stargazer.
Yeah sorry Julie, I meant was i...Thanks stargazer.<br /><br />Yeah sorry Julie, I meant was it a sex equality issue or a 'more pay for all' issue.StephenRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08717556420960471541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-71372418863129654192009-05-14T21:55:00.000+12:002009-05-14T21:55:00.000+12:00Stargazer, do you really think the Fourth Labour G...Stargazer, do you really think the Fourth Labour Government did so much for pay equity? Remember, this was the government where Roger Douglas was Finance Minister and Richard Prebble Associate Finance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-43645586624480314682009-05-14T21:06:00.000+12:002009-05-14T21:06:00.000+12:00stephen, the nurses settlement was definitely a pa...stephen, the nurses settlement was definitely a pay equity issue. once the pay equity act 1989 had passed, the nurses were to be the first group to be have their claim dealt with. alot of the work had been done on that claim. unfortunately the new national government nixed all of that - it was the first thing they did. once labour was back in, they went back to that earlier work to settle the nurses claim. it was definitely based on the pay equity work done by the fourth labour government.<br /><br />my understanding is the teachers settlement also had a similar element.stargazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430290445762377335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-82450954731321514422009-05-14T16:20:00.000+12:002009-05-14T16:20:00.000+12:00Can you explain a bit more what you see as the dif...Can you explain a bit more what you see as the difference StephenR? Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you mean.Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08977150346842277994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-81176578999372539782009-05-14T15:56:00.000+12:002009-05-14T15:56:00.000+12:00on top of all of that work which has been going on...<I>on top of all of that work which has been going on quietly, the fifth labour government also reached major settlements with nurses and teachers. pay for nurses would have been significantly raised as a result of the 1990 act, but because of the repeal 6 months later, they had to wait 15 years.</I>Is that an equity thing or just a 'more pay' thing?StephenRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08717556420960471541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-48075544080489096872009-05-14T08:42:00.000+12:002009-05-14T08:42:00.000+12:00So Dave, how would you progress pay equity?
Pers...So Dave, how would you progress pay equity? <br /><br />Personally I would start with some pretty rigorous research into the problem, identifying the size and scope of it, how it plays out in different occupation groups, coming up with tools to measure it (and whether any action taking was having an effect on the pay gap, and why), etc. <br /><br />Which is what this unit was doing... (See <A HREF="http://thehandmirror.blogspot.com/2009/05/well-it-had-to-happen.html" REL="nofollow">Anjum's post this morning on the disbanding of the pay equity unit</A>)Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08977150346842277994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-50547107386879156312009-05-13T23:19:00.000+12:002009-05-13T23:19:00.000+12:00Ive just found this page and realised what Labour ...Ive just found this page and realised what Labour actually did. They arranged lots of meetings, with a few committees and wrote lots of reports about its units, tools and reviews, The nurses and teachers settlements were not done as part of the pay equity, they were occupation based.<br /><br />So thanks for telling us that.Swimminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12913329810121951824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-79818477373914148562009-03-09T22:50:00.000+13:002009-03-09T22:50:00.000+13:00yes, funny that!yes, funny that!stargazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430290445762377335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-30377066708814740042009-03-06T21:49:00.000+13:002009-03-06T21:49:00.000+13:00Don't you find it absolutely fascinating that this...Don't you find it absolutely fascinating that this post got no comments (until this one)? With all those people out there in Blogland saying Labour did nothing you'd think some of them might have had something to say here?Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08977150346842277994noreply@blogger.com