tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post6820904421161028198..comments2023-10-07T22:37:49.244+13:00Comments on The Hand Mirror: Quick hit: Consent FAILkatyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15742280289613450293noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-87279971653820623282009-08-21T14:33:26.727+12:002009-08-21T14:33:26.727+12:00Well, you can thank the patriarchy for that, Brett...Well, you can thank the patriarchy for that, Brett. In that system, playing to those gender roles, "Men" are considered inherently strong, so violence between them or against them is considered part and parcel of what being a man is all about. Men are always the "strong" sex, so when anything happens to them - violence, sexual assault- it's their "fault". It's because they were not strong enough, not manly enough to defend themselves. Men can never be the victim in a patriarchal system. I don't think we're in a patriachal system any more, but not exactly a totally equal one either. What it means to be a woman is being redefined, but not what it means to be a man. Thus, conflict ensues.<br /><br />It's a massive problem that isn't addressed, because still there is the correlation between masculinity and violence. Or a correlation between masculinity and being sexually...ravenous. For some reason, the myth that all men have to be sexually active to be men still persists. It's so incredibly harmful and untruthful. If these women aren't getting long jail sentences, they should be. If it was a man preying on a male minor you know that he'd be getting a long sentence, because his attentions are "an attack on the boy's masculinity". If an underage boy has relations with a female adult, that's a confirmation of his masculinity, and thus considered "Ok." Which it isn't. <br /><br />This is my theory, anyway.Tess Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251107430522755699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-79540416800336290412009-08-21T10:56:23.554+12:002009-08-21T10:56:23.554+12:00She didnt get jail time.
Violence and crimes agai...She didnt get jail time.<br /><br />Violence and crimes against males aren't treated as seriously as violence against females.brettdalehttp://www.mediasportandotherrantings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-91817122229724694272009-08-20T20:37:04.408+12:002009-08-20T20:37:04.408+12:00well of course her lawyer would say that, the lawy...well of course her lawyer would say that, the lawyer's job is to defend her client. what did the judge say? if she was convicted, what sentence was handed down?stargazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430290445762377335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-47671155129174749032009-08-20T16:05:42.672+12:002009-08-20T16:05:42.672+12:00It was the school teacher that fell pregnant to a ...It was the school teacher that fell pregnant to a 14 year old boy, her lawyer said and I quote "her only crime was that she fell in love"Brett Dalehttp://www.mediasportandotherrantings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-89934698572273691212009-08-19T10:45:06.843+12:002009-08-19T10:45:06.843+12:00which american cases, brett? the le tourneau case...which american cases, brett? the le tourneau case, which saw the woman jailed twice? i can't remember the name of the other woman who was jailed in a similar situation, but i certainly don't recall anyone who was treated leniently as compared to a male offender.stargazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430290445762377335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-78794525456292388282009-08-19T10:21:27.168+12:002009-08-19T10:21:27.168+12:00stargazer,
I was using the American cases as an ...stargazer, <br /><br />I was using the American cases as an example, but IMHO this would be the case in NewZealand too.Brett Dalehttp://www.mediasportandotherrantings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-48590362236440757532009-08-19T08:48:40.681+12:002009-08-19T08:48:40.681+12:00IIRC until 2003 women weren't capable of statu...IIRC until 2003 women weren't capable of statutory rape under New Zealand law.<br /><br />And no, I have no evidence on hand to support this, just my own memory.DPF:TLDRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06372937855256319716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-22647320235050263472009-08-18T22:30:41.130+12:002009-08-18T22:30:41.130+12:00brett, do you have any evidence for that claim? c...brett, do you have any evidence for that claim? can you give any example of where a woman got a lighter sentence? the cases i've heard of (american ones only), women got pretty harsh sentences for statutory rape.stargazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00430290445762377335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-45234100308222043102009-08-18T18:41:44.562+12:002009-08-18T18:41:44.562+12:00About 3 years ago I walked into vespa lounge about...About 3 years ago I walked into vespa lounge about 1am and bumped into my 14 yo stepdaughter! (she was supposed to be at a sleep over) she was with a 24yo guy, she had "borrowed" my wifes gold amex and some of her clothes and was having a ball. Needless to say 24yo guy went home, alone and somewhat shocked. I visited him (with step daughters father) the next morning for a chat. It turns out he thought she was 17 and in the 7th form. Yes we did think that they had had sex, no we didnt tell the police.Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-11308760273366480822009-08-18T18:41:23.300+12:002009-08-18T18:41:23.300+12:00About 3 years ago I walked into vespa lounge about...About 3 years ago I walked into vespa lounge about 1am and bumped into my 14 yo stepdaughter! (she was supposed to be at a sleep over) she was with a 24yo guy, she had "borrowed" my wifes gold amex and some of her clothes and was having a ball. Needless to say 24yo guy went home, alone and somewhat shocked. I visited him (with step daughters father) the next morning for a chat. It turns out he thought she was 17 and in the 7th form. Yes we did think that they had had sex, no we didnt tell the police.Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-9556793123342080992009-08-18T14:25:59.546+12:002009-08-18T14:25:59.546+12:00Of course he would of known she was underage, he d...Of course he would of known she was underage, he deserves the jail sentence, I'm guessing though if a female did the same crime, with her victim being a male, she wouldn't go to jail for a year.Brett Dalehttp://www.mediasportandotherrantings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-49456625813820187042009-08-18T11:44:16.478+12:002009-08-18T11:44:16.478+12:00You're using the wrong word Anon. The word you...You're using the wrong word Anon. The word you're looking for is statutory rape.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-64730631817946910982009-08-18T11:16:05.340+12:002009-08-18T11:16:05.340+12:00How crazy, 12 months for sex yet torture doesn'...How crazy, 12 months for sex yet torture doesn't even get you jail time, this just shows how badly adjusted modern society is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8770341086445997547.post-30602926476924250962009-08-18T09:19:20.970+12:002009-08-18T09:19:20.970+12:00I was thinking exactly the same thing when I read ...I was thinking exactly the same thing when I read this. I don't understand why people have such a problem understanding that. 'Oh but she/he was...'. Oh but he/she looked...', oh but he she said...'. NO! Fourteen year olds are too young to consent to sex with adults. End of story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com