So, a confession: I've never really liked biographical movies about women I otherwise admire. I'm not entirely sure why - there's something about the cliches they indulge in, the Hollywood-isation. (She lapses into total vagueness revealing, yet again, that she actually don't know much about movies or how to analyse them.) Not long ago, I read a book by a woman I know, Te Whanganui-a-tara/Wellington-based scholar, Bronwyn Polaschek, about bio-pics of women. The book was based on Bronwyn's doctoral thesis and I was thinking of reviewing it. But because of above-mentioned inadequacies, I didn't think I could do it justice. Instead, I decided to do a Q&A by email with Bronwyn to post here for anyone who might be interested in some seriously serious film criticism, analysis, discussion. So, here goes:
The Postfeminist Biopic:
Narrating the Lives of Plath, Kahlo, Woolf and Austen
By Bronwyn Polaschek. Palgrave/Macmillan 2013.
Q: In your book, you argue there’s a specific category of biopic
that should be considered “postfeminist”. But you acknowledge that the word
“postfeminist” itself is one people disagree on. The way you prefer to
understand it is as an “epistemological shift”. By that I take you to mean,
among other things, that postfeminism isn’t just a backlash against feminism or
somehow “after” feminism, but is its own thing. As you put it in the intro to
your book, it is an “intersection of feminism with postmodernism,
poststructuralism and post-colonialism”. (Let’s not try to define all those contested words for now!) Or, to
put it yet another way, postfeminism doesn’t just challenge the things the
so-called “second wave” feminists were challenging, it also challenges the
“second wave” itself, which I think everyone agrees needed to happen. In terms
of movies, then, these are biopics that clearly contain feminist elements, but
also much more than that including some critique of those elements, and as such
they really do demand their own category, a category you’re calling the
“postfeminist biopic”. What made you begin to think that calling or
categorising these movies – and the ones you look at primarily are Sylvia, Frida, The Hours and Becoming Jane – as postfeminist (rather
than, say, just “feminist”) was necessary?
A: I started with the films. They seemed interesting to me, but I
wasn’t sure what I had to say about them, or whether they were linked in any
particular way. As I worked through the scholarly literature, I found certain theoretical
tools were useful to me in thinking about the films (like, Laura Mulvey’s idea
of the male gaze or ideas from feminist film critics about the symbolism of
windows, or the effect of the voiceover etc) but I also found the pessimism in
much of this material didn’t accord with the vibrancy and intensity of the films
themselves. I also felt that many aspects of the films were not captured by applying
a feminist lens, including elements that were internally contradictory. Coming
across the less well known definition of postfeminism that I use was exciting
because it provided a way to make sense of the films, and to see the links
between them and with other films being released around the same time. I found I
was able to articulate the distinctive features of these films, what separates
them from earlier biopics about women. So, to answer your question, it was a
long process before I realised the category was ‘necessary’, but when I found
it my disparate arguments seemed to fall in line. I started with the material,
but had to look to find the right theoretical tools to make sense of it.
Q: You make clear that you want to move away from simply counting up
how few women there were in movies (in front of the camera and behind it) and
instead to look at the content of movies – the “text” – to investigate “the
impact of feminism as a social movement on the biopic genre”. I guess counting isn’t that useful, but just before this year’s Oscars, The New York Times published an article
that looked at how much screen-time Oscar-nominated actors got in their
respective movies, by (binary) gender and, of course, it was pretty revealing.
(Women got less!) Even thought this kind of “cinemetrics” may be of limited value,
what do you think it can tell us that
might be useful, and could this not link up with your own content or textual
analysis in some way?
A: I definitely wouldn’t argue that there is no point in counting. The
difficulty is that in the world of film production the results of most counts (women
directors, women producers, women editors, women heads of cinemtography etc) are
that women are under-represented. In the world of film on the screen, again if
we count (number of women’s roles, number of lines women get to speak, extent
to which women characters further the plot), women will be under-represented
(apart from in counts like, degree of nudity expected in sex scenes or number
of disposable characters played). It is certainly worthwhile to theorise about
why this is, to consider the development of film in a historical context, to
think about the sorts of stories our culture tells. There is a lot of excellent
scholarly work dealing with these questions. Feminist film criticism is built
on this absence, and the anger it prompts.
My difficulty with this kind of cinemetrics is that by focusing on absence,
we can neglect the presence of women and of the changes that have occurred in
the film world since feminism. My work is part of an attempt by some scholars
to identify the influence of feminism on the films and television shows we
watch. In a sense the fact that we have to work so hard to identify this
presence speaks volumes, but I think it is constructive, and to be honest
heartening, to analyse the work that has been created by women, for women, or
with feminist/women’s themes embedded. If we want to answer questions about the
function of gender within the film industry, we need both the depressing
cinemetrics (which still tells us a lot about women’s role in film), and the
kind of analysis that I – and other scholars – develop, which explores how
feminism has irreparably altered the film landscape (although perhaps not as
feminists themselves envisioned).
Q: I must confess, as a viewer, I wince at most biopics and tend to
avoid them like the plague, especially those about women. They always seem to
me to be so laden with stereotypes and clichés. (I guess that’s one of the many
reasons I’m not a film critic or scholar.) Are their any biopics you would
consider “feminist”? If so, what are
they and why? If not, why not?
A: There are very few biopics I would call feminist. That is, biopics
with an avowedly feminist director or producer, biopics that can be read as feminist,
or biopics that were viewed as feminist by audiences. Jane Campion’s An Angel at My Table is seen by some scholars
as a feminist biopic, though in my view it is more consistent with
postfeminism. Other biopics to be read as feminist? Erin Brockovich, The
Notorious Bettie Page, Marie
Antoinette. The Chronicle of Anna
Magdalena Bach is perhaps the best example of a feminist biopic in my view.
It tells the story of a little-known woman (and one only famous because of who
she married) and her difficult domestic life with a so-called musical genius.
The lack of feminist biopics suggests a difficulty for filmmakers
who want to tell feminist versions of biography on film. The problem is that
the classical Hollywood biopic formula hasn’t led to particularly revolutionary
representations of women’s lives, and certainly not ones that would be adequate
from a feminist perspective. So, a filmmaker has the dilemma of whether to use
the genre, to take aspects of it but reinterpret them, or to ignore it
completely. There are many feminist biographical documentaries about women,
such as Laura Mulvey and Peter Woollen’s documentary Frida Kahlo and Tina Modotti, or Leslie Thornton’s There was an Unseen Cloud, Moving (about
Isabelle Eberhardt). One scholar (Chris Holmlund) calls these “activist
bio-pics”. Her label suggests that one solution for feminist filmmakers wanting
to represent a life on screen has been to throw out the traditional biopic
genre, and replace it with a blend of documentary and biography.
As a sidenote, I’d say you might ask the same question of any genre.
Are there any feminist westerns? Feminist gangster films? Feminist romantic
comedies? Feminist horror films? Even, feminist women’s films? The larger
question of whether popular genre films per
se can be adapted for a revolutionary feminist purpose is an interesting
one.
Q: I was interested in your comments about the differences between
how we might analyse the content of a film, say as a film scholar, versus how
the moviegoer sees it. My guess (and I think you suggest this) is that these
could be very different. Do you think scholarly textual analysis has any impact
on viewer reaction and vice versa? If it does, what kind of impact, and is it
useful in analysing a movie? If not, why not and isn’t that a bit of a black
mark against scholarship?
A: I would say first that I think the line between film scholar and
moviegoer is not always easy to draw. One might define the film scholar as
someone working at a university, teaching and writing about film, and the
moviegoer as someone who does not read this kind of criticism. But what of the
film reviewer? The moviegoer who reads reviews? The moviegoer who has studied
film at university? The moviegoer who takes two weeks off during the film
festival to attend as many films as she can? What of filmmakers such as Todd
Haynes and Quentin Tarantino who are extremely knowledgeable about the history
of film (Haynes studied it, Tarantino worked in a video store) and incorporate
this knowledge into their own films? You see my point: who are the ‘experts’ of
film in our day and age? This is particularly true at the moment when film is
so ubiquitous and available. Old films are re-run on television. You can rent
almost anything you like, or download it from the internet. The history of film
is at the fingertips of anyone interested.
Having said that, there is certainly a group who write the kinds of
books I have recently published, people who draw on certain types of theories,
who make particular kinds of links, who develop esoteric arguments. I don’t
think you can argue that film scholarship of this sort has a direct influence
on the viewing of any given film. I went to see the film Hannah Arendt last weekend. I may or may not write something
scholarly about it in the future. This is not going to impact on the responses
of the audience around me at the time, or the many others who have seen this
film (before me) and will be seeing it in months to come. I would argue however
that film scholarship contributes to the wider discussion we have about the
meaning and significance of films in our culture. This discussion is something
scholars can have, as well as film reviewers, archivists, museum curators, film
directors, secondary school Media Studies and English teachers, DVD shop owners
and staff, people who run and attend film festivals, as well as your general
lover of films, or even someone who doesn’t watch a lot of films but has
opinions about the ones they do see. The kinds of questions film scholarship
asks – what is this film about? What does it mean? How is it doing what it
does? – are not the domain only of scholars.
I would also say that even if film scholarship has no impact
whatsoever on viewer reaction as you put it, the study of film would still be
valid. We study Dickens and Shakespeare though their original audiences are
long dead. Films, like other cultural artefacts such as novels, poems, plays, television
shows, music, paintings, photographs, are texts we produce to entertain, but
also to try to make sense of our lives in some way. From this perspective alone
they are worth studying as they tell us about our culture.
Viewer reaction does have an impact on scholarly readings to some
extent. There are scholars who focus on ‘reception’ as it’s called,
interviewing people who have seen films and asking about their reactions,
running focus groups, corresponding by email (or in earlier work, by letter).
This has been a rich avenue for scholars to go down, and has opened up the
reading of film in many ways. Viewer reaction is something I think scholars
should be mindful of, but an entirely scholarly reading of a film is – in my
view – also valid, albeit limited in some senses.
A final point, scholarly work certainly impacts on filmmaking. If we
return to Todd Haynes, a director I really like, he studied semiotics and art.
A film like Far From Heaven is a
homage to the 1950s director Douglas Sirk, who was not particularly revered in
his lifetime (most reviewers hated his films), but was recognised by film
scholars in the 1970s as an important auteur and master of the women’s film
genre. Arguably the nostalgia we see now
for the imagery, colour and themes of 1950s melodrama, in a show like Desperate Housewives, originates with
this scholarly revision of Sirk’s importance.
Q: In your conclusion, you say you’re responding to pessimism in
film and feminist studies: first, the pessimism (perhaps expressed in my third question, above) about the simplistic/patriarchal conventions of female
biopics; second, that these biopics undermine the gains of “second wave”
feminism. As a viewer, I tend to see these kinds of movies as, overall,
negative in the way they reinforce stereotypes etc., but I take it for you they
would be, on balance, positive. Is that right, and can you explain a bit
further why (or why not)?
A: I am certainly more sympathetic to popular culture per se than many scholars. I agree with
the school of thought that says it is worth studying popular culture because it
is so widely consumed. If people are reading/watching/listening to these texts
then it is worthwhile analysing them closely to think about the values intentionally
or unconsciously embedded by the creators of the work, as well as the values
the audience take away (which can be quite different). Put bluntly it’s
important to ask, why do they appeal to so many people?
I think that the relationship between texts and consumers is also
more complicated than is often assumed. The pessimism you speak of (and which
is shared by many about genre films including the biopic) is based in part on
the belief that people ‘believe’ these films, rather than read them. I would argue that consumers of popular culture are far
more active than they are given credit for. While they may take a text at face
value, they can also read against the grain, or select aspects of a text they
like and disregard others. Consumers are critical and discerning, trying out
one text, but then switching to another if they don’t find the original one
convincing. Often when a scholar takes a closer look at popular texts and those
who read/view them, they realise there is much more going on than they
initially thought. For example, I really admire Janice Radway’s study of the
romance novel. She herself objected to Mills and Boon novels for all the
reasons any feminist would, but went to interview a group of women who loved them.
She found that the women were constantly evaluating and critiquing the novels
as they read. Also – and I think this is a fascinating argument – Radway found
that for these women (who were mainly housewives) the very act of sitting down
and reading a romance novel during the day was experienced as subversive. In
other words, quite apart from the content of the novels, the act of reading
them, of stepping outside of their expected role, was something the women
enjoyed as a private rebellion against their role as housewife. My point is
that thinking in terms of whether biopics are “good” or “bad” may not be the most
useful approach. I would ask instead, why are they such a popular genre?
I think it’s important to reflect on the ‘wince’ you mention in
question 3. I certainly do wince at many aspects of popular culture. A recent
example would be watching Miley Cyrus’s video ‘Wrecking Ball’ on YouTube. I
found it very hard to watch. But it’s worthwhile thinking about where that
wince comes from. What made it so hard to watch? Is it because I have been
trained to recognise and critique any popular culture text that seems to
objectify women? Or is it that the music is bad? Am I uncomfortable with a
young woman being so sexually explicit? Do I simply dislike images that are so
sexually graphic? Is it that the imagery is so painfully clichéd? I think
reflecting on when and why we wince is worthwhile. Often when we challenge our
own responses, we can see that there may be more to a popular culture text than
we first thought. This isn’t to say that I think all popular culture is
inherently subversive. Of course it can be conservative and reactionary. More
often than not, it’s a complicated mix.
Do I think these postfeminist biopics are overall positive? I
suppose I do in that if you asked, is the world a better place with films like Frida or The Hours in it, I would say “yes”. After The Hours was released both Mrs
Dalloway and To the Lighthouse appeared
on bestseller lists. Frida introduced
a far wider audience to Frida Kahlo’s art. So did Sylvia, though to a lesser extent as the film wasn’t as popular. If
you read the discussion boards about Becoming
Jane it’s clear that many of the people who saw it had little to no
knowledge of Austen, apart from what they may have learnt at school. Of course
these films include tropes that we object to from a feminist perspective – the
obsessive treatment of suicide, the emphasis on women’s love lives, the
depiction of creative women as mad/hysterical – but they also celebrate and canonise
the protagonists for their contribution to art. This was a theme across the films
I looked at and is a positive development in biopics about women. Postfeminist
biopics further a core goal of feminist work to revise history and include the
achievements of women, and they do it for a broad audience.
2 comments:
Thanks for this really interesting, thoughtful and challenging interview. I especially loved the idea of housewives reading Mills and Boons as being subversive.
Now I want to read this book.
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