I'm going with a split decision - yes, violence is bad...no, it's still pretty damn hilarious. For reasons to do with power and change and shit which we could analyse, but, really? I'd rather just be amused. And savour the mental image.
I don't read it as an affirmation of violence. I also don't believe it would take a team of surgeons to disembed Michelle Obama's foot from Rush Limbaugh's arse - a swift pull should do it.
I'd be interested in whether or not the poster designer thought he was paying Michelle Obama a compliment - is she supposed to look assertive and strong, or aggressive? And is there only a difference between the two when you're discussing a woman? And did the poster's designer actually put that amount of thought into the poster at all?
I think Michelle Obama is fierce, and in a good way, so I don't care what the poster's designer thought! I agree thought Anna about the agressive/assertive dichotomy that affects women disproportionately.
Anon I don't think your analogy computes. Here's a better go at it: (Say if Sarah Palin were president) Mr Palin (don't know his name, sorry!) captioned saying something like "Sarah Haskins, I know what you said about George W Bush when his daddy was in the White House and I am so gonna kick your butt if you try that with one of my sons."
Here's a better go at it: (Say if Sarah Palin were president) Mr Palin (don't know his name, sorry!) captioned saying something like "Sarah Haskins, I know what you said about George W Bush when his daddy was in the White House and I am so gonna kick your butt if you try that with one of my sons."
I try to avoid this kind of 'if it was a man doing it to a woman, would it be OK?' thing because it's a pretty tired rhetorical tactic. But I'm kind of curious now. In your opinion, the above would be OK? (If not necessarily meriting an approving post on this blog?)
Sounds like it to me Hugh. It seems to me that it's ok for women to threaten a man, as it's a joke - and obviously so. I always thought joking about this on any level was wrong?
For a start you would have to assume that Sarah Haskins was that kind of comedian, making attacks on the non-public figure children of public figures. Which she isn't. Then you'd have to assume that George W Bush was, at the time she made said comments, a child and not in the public arena in his own right, when George Bush Snr was president. So because neither of those things hold it's a bit difficult to really assess the validity of whether a humourous poster based on all those what ifs would be Not OK, ie violent, or not. I was trying to point out that your analogy did not compute Anon (not sure if it is the same Anon still?). But by all means let's keep inflating this thread.
(Sorry, I initially put this on the wrong thread, thanks Hugh for the heads-up!)
Anon, I seriously doubt that anyone who writes for or reads THM seriously advocates violence to anyone, male or female. I don't think that the poster is a serious endorsement of violence either.
Like all things, it should be taken in context. We live in a society in which domestic violence is rife, but I've never known anyone to be seriously injured by a kick to the arse from a First Lady. (Mind you, I'm no historian.)
Well, if Michelle has Obama-Care then its gonna be impossible for her "team of doctors" to do anything...lol. WEhat about what "Mr" Obama said about Bristol Palin. Well, the palins showed true character...not like these Obamas. If he had the well-being of our country in mind then all these pressures wouldn't be so bad. He's got Barry as #1. We need a president. I guess one "change" that will occur is that most people will think twice before casting a vote (or 15 votes...lol) for someone like him...
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hehehehe thats funny.
Hooray for threats of violence.
So Brett thinks it's funny and Hugh thinks it's not ok. Have I stuffed up here readers? Please feel free to say if you think so.
I'm going with a split decision - yes, violence is bad...no, it's still pretty damn hilarious. For reasons to do with power and change and shit which we could analyse, but, really? I'd rather just be amused. And savour the mental image.
I wouldn't say you've 'stuffed up'. It's your journal, after all.
It's just not really to my taste.
I don't read it as an affirmation of violence. I also don't believe it would take a team of surgeons to disembed Michelle Obama's foot from Rush Limbaugh's arse - a swift pull should do it.
I'd be interested in whether or not the poster designer thought he was paying Michelle Obama a compliment - is she supposed to look assertive and strong, or aggressive? And is there only a difference between the two when you're discussing a woman? And did the poster's designer actually put that amount of thought into the poster at all?
Thanks for the feedback.
I think Michelle Obama is fierce, and in a good way, so I don't care what the poster's designer thought! I agree thought Anna about the agressive/assertive dichotomy that affects women disproportionately.
Of course if it was a guy threatening a woman for anti male comments with a little bit of hilarious violence you may not be laughing so much.
Anon I don't think your analogy computes. Here's a better go at it:
(Say if Sarah Palin were president)
Mr Palin (don't know his name, sorry!) captioned saying something like "Sarah Haskins, I know what you said about George W Bush when his daddy was in the White House and I am so gonna kick your butt if you try that with one of my sons."
Your analogy is quite different entire. But you might be interested in this post and some of the ensuing discussion nonetheless.
Here's a better go at it:
(Say if Sarah Palin were president)
Mr Palin (don't know his name, sorry!) captioned saying something like "Sarah Haskins, I know what you said about George W Bush when his daddy was in the White House and I am so gonna kick your butt if you try that with one of my sons."
I try to avoid this kind of 'if it was a man doing it to a woman, would it be OK?' thing because it's a pretty tired rhetorical tactic. But I'm kind of curious now. In your opinion, the above would be OK? (If not necessarily meriting an approving post on this blog?)
Sounds like it to me Hugh. It seems to me that it's ok for women to threaten a man, as it's a joke - and obviously so. I always thought joking about this on any level was wrong?
For a start you would have to assume that Sarah Haskins was that kind of comedian, making attacks on the non-public figure children of public figures. Which she isn't. Then you'd have to assume that George W Bush was, at the time she made said comments, a child and not in the public arena in his own right, when George Bush Snr was president. So because neither of those things hold it's a bit difficult to really assess the validity of whether a humourous poster based on all those what ifs would be Not OK, ie violent, or not. I was trying to point out that your analogy did not compute Anon (not sure if it is the same Anon still?). But by all means let's keep inflating this thread.
(Sorry, I initially put this on the wrong thread, thanks Hugh for the heads-up!)
Anon, I seriously doubt that anyone who writes for or reads THM seriously advocates violence to anyone, male or female. I don't think that the poster is a serious endorsement of violence either.
Like all things, it should be taken in context. We live in a society in which domestic violence is rife, but I've never known anyone to be seriously injured by a kick to the arse from a First Lady. (Mind you, I'm no historian.)
Well, if Michelle has Obama-Care then its gonna be impossible for her "team of doctors" to do anything...lol. WEhat about what "Mr" Obama said about Bristol Palin. Well, the palins showed true character...not like these Obamas. If he had the well-being of our country in mind then all these pressures wouldn't be so bad. He's got Barry as #1. We need a president. I guess one "change" that will occur is that most people will think twice before casting a vote (or 15 votes...lol) for someone like him...
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